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Silent Dreamer
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 6 Location: England, Portsmouth
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: Habbit of Killing Off The Best Characters SPOILERS |
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SPOILERS FOR RAVEN AND ASCENDANTS
Well, just finished reading Shout for the Dead, should of finished it earlier, however due to real life problems and various other things I couldn't.
Anyways, I have noticed in both in Shout for the Dead and Demon Storm that James has a nasty habbit of killing off the best characters. In SFTD, Mirron heroically dies along with Dina Kell. In DS, Hirad, Eriene (Been so long since I last read the Raven series I've forgotten how to spell her name) and a couple of others snuff it (Again I've forgotten the name and not much time to go looking for tit, but the Elf person I grew to admire as well died in Elf Sorrow). Leaves me shouting in my mind "What the? How dare you kill them off you (Insert random abuse here)".
Still, all in all I enjoyed the every book as good as the other and would highly reccommend them to anyone interested in this type of genre.
On a side note, James Barclay is my Uncle in real life (No fooling here, if needs be I'll get him to come on and certify this, although he'll do it in someway to open up ways of abuse and torture towards me) So anyone wanting beatings on him for the killing of favourite characters I accept cheesecakes as payment! _________________ A firey clash of fates awaits us all, our destiny must spawn havoc in the name of preserving a future life. Do not weep for us, or fear the path that we've chosen. *Eve Online "No Other Destiny"* |
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Drizzt
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1081 Location: Easington, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to the forum!
Have you any idea how much money we're all going to be spending on cheesecakes now?
You might want to put a spoiler warning at the beginning of your post, just in case anyone's yet to read the books. _________________ Pagan Music |
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Ry_Darrick
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 106
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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please spoiler this, i havent read shout of the dead yet, and since its in the raven section i could easily have just ruined the book for myself... |
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Drizzt
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1081 Location: Easington, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I had kind of pointed that out... it's been mentioned, let's not get on SD's case. Methinks we need a 'bat-signal' style system for lurking mods. Lizzy's busy today, someone shout for the mighty Malop!! Or Ariel...
*goes off to build mod-signal beacon*
Meanwhile, back on topic, which characters do people miss the most?? Oh, and... quite probably...
SPOILERS TO FOLLOW _________________ Pagan Music |
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Lizzy
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 674 Location: the wilds of the West
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome Silent Dreamer and I've added spoiler warnings.
Sorry I wasn't about sooner to sort it
As for a mod warning system email me, Malop and Ariel, then at least one of us should pick it up. _________________
Listen to Lizzy, she's always right! as said by Jovial |
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Silent Dreamer
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 6 Location: England, Portsmouth
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, I apologise greatly for spoiling anything for those who haven't read all the books, wasn't thinking straight. As you can see, I'm new to these forums, don't crucify me so soon >.<;;
Anyways, money spent on cheesecakes and thusly given to me is money well spent if you look on the possible "changes" James might make to how favourite characters meet their ends.
Also, thank you to all for the welcome, glad to see the forum still has its residents ^_^;; _________________ A firey clash of fates awaits us all, our destiny must spawn havoc in the name of preserving a future life. Do not weep for us, or fear the path that we've chosen. *Eve Online "No Other Destiny"* |
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Malop
Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 205 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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My apologies as well, a longer than expected upgrade to Vista and Office 2007 has left me offline for a few days.
Back now and no more of that open source rubbish, hurrah. _________________ Member and President of the Will Begman Appreciation Society.
Fantasycon 2005 Walsall Attendee
Fantasycon 2006-2009 Nottingham Attendee
Fantasycon 2010 Nottingham (stopped over for lunch)
Fantasycon 2011 Brighton (Is that in France?) |
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dragonkillernz
Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 365 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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:O Open Source rubbish?
How dare you utter such filth here...begone with you! Seriously, how can you trust Vista when they took Window's already poor security and rewrote it? I mean, obviously, that's the best way to create a safe platform for users, instead of adapting and evolving your security, which is complex and deeply layered, just try to write a whole new one. That's a bloody good idea.
Really, that's my main problem with Vista, although you must admit, it does bear a striking resemblance to MacOSX. _________________ Ian Fulguirinas(dragonkillernz) |
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Drizzt
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1081 Location: Easington, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:00 am Post subject: |
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So nobody's missing any characters then...? _________________ Pagan Music |
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Lizzy
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 674 Location: the wilds of the West
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:05 am Post subject: |
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RAVEN SPOILERS
Well obviously Hirad. But I also thought it was sad about Sirendor Larn as he had lots of potential.
Styliann's exit was quite classy _________________
Listen to Lizzy, she's always right! as said by Jovial |
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Drizzt
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1081 Location: Easington, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Yup, I liked Sirendor. Though for me it was Ilkar who's presence I missed the most. A lot of the humour disappeared when we snuffed it, as you'd expect. _________________ Pagan Music |
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Selik
Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 1524 Location: South Shields
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: |
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I was happy at the end of the Ascendants since my favourite character was still alive. Question is should I start talking about my favourite character in The Raven, again? _________________ "I sit on my arse, not my head." - Baron Gresse. |
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Lizzy
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 674 Location: the wilds of the West
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: |
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What you mean like how his head bounced? _________________
Listen to Lizzy, she's always right! as said by Jovial |
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Drizzt
Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 1081 Location: Easington, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Ah yes, good old Selik. Methinks the 'Selik Appreciation Society' could do with restarting! _________________ Pagan Music |
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jolinare
Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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damn, i should start reading the ascendants book!
Why haven't i! Why! I know the minute i pick it up I'm going to squeal, drop it on my foot, break my foot, and proclaim "oh James, I've missed you!". There really is no excuse for my literary laziness because i'm managing Kate Mosse's Labyrinth just fine (albeit it doesn't have a humungous cast and the political complexity of james' books)!
I'm still not over what happened to Hirad . At least it happened at the end so there are no books to miss him in. Sniff. I need counselling.
At the beginning of Dawnthief i was very pleased to see the heads of main characters rolling because that seldom happens, and I did not expect Erienne's hubby and kids to die so the surprise was welcome, but after six books of raven it started getting a tad traumatic to have my favourite characters cut down by our beloved and oh so ruthless author. |
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